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<h3>Topic: <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html">meeting 2020-08-25</a></h3>

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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/207903984" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#207903984">(Aug 24 2020 at 22:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1380">@WG-rustc-dev-guide</span> we're supposed to have a meeting tomorrow</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/207904040" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#207904040">(Aug 24 2020 at 22:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I won't be around, I'm on vacations until wednesday and tomorrow is a huge holiday here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/207905781" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#207905781">(Aug 24 2020 at 22:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you want to postpone a week or so?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/207905907" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#207905907">(Aug 24 2020 at 22:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>unsure, if others want to do the meeting ... it's ok, otherwise yeah, we can postpone</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/207905915" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#207905915">(Aug 24 2020 at 22:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>in particular, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> I know you were busy, but were you considering participating in this meeting?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/207906667" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#207906667">(Aug 24 2020 at 22:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>or we could do thursday maybe so it's sooner</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/207907540" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#207907540">(Aug 24 2020 at 23:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, let's see what others say</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/207910028" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#207910028">(Aug 24 2020 at 23:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, things are a bit busy for me. Unfortunately, I can't do the same timeslot on Thursday either, but I could do later or earlier that day. We could also postpone a day.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208123436" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208123436">(Aug 26 2020 at 17:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25/near/207910028">said</a>:</p>
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<p>Yeah, things are a bit busy for me. Unfortunately, I can't do the same timeslot on Thursday either, but I could do later or earlier that day. We could also postpone a day.</p>
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<p>when should the meeting happen then?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208123474" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208123474">(Aug 26 2020 at 17:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>today, tomorrow and friday in general is fine for me up to 9.30pm UTC</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208146163" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208146163">(Aug 26 2020 at 20:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm inclined to say next Tuesday. I don't think I can do tomorrow. I can do Friday if needed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208279184" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208279184">(Aug 27 2020 at 21:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>next tuesday works then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208622327" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208622327">(Aug 31 2020 at 22:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1380">@WG-rustc-dev-guide</span> Just a reminder that we will have a meeting tomorrow at our normal time.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208627309" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208627309">(Aug 31 2020 at 23:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>remind me what time is normal?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208687719" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208687719">(Sep 01 2020 at 13:37)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1380">@WG-rustc-dev-guide</span> <time datetime="2020-09-01T16:30:00Z">2020-09-01T16:30:00+00:00</time></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208688154" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208688154">(Sep 01 2020 at 13:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have a class then, sorry :/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208688882" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208688882">(Sep 01 2020 at 13:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wonder if we should accomodate the time better then so you're able to participate</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208688942" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208688942">(Sep 01 2020 at 13:46)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> thoughts?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208688958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208688958">(Sep 01 2020 at 13:46)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1380">@WG-rustc-dev-guide</span> who else is joining this meeting?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208698219" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208698219">(Sep 01 2020 at 14:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>I be there, though I know not the agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208731923" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208731923">(Sep 01 2020 at 18:59)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> what time zone is that? I was thinking 7:30pm UTC was our normal time (which is 2:30pm for me in the central US)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208731944" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208731944">(Sep 01 2020 at 18:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>Or a half-hour from now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208732351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208732351">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>half an hour from now is fine for me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208732429" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208732429">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>the one <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> says 2 and a half hours ago</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208735009" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208735009">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>ouch sorry</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208735024" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208735024">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah in 10 minutes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208735141" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208735141">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><time datetime="2020-09-01T19:30:00Z">2020-09-01T19:30:00+00:00</time></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208735230" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208735230">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1380">@WG-rustc-dev-guide</span> meeting in 8 minutes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736117" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736117">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:30)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1380">@WG-rustc-dev-guide</span> <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736190" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736190">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:30)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> you had an idea about a possible agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736201" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736201">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you want to drive the meeting?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736216" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736216">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736242" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736242">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>So first, I have an announcement</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736449" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736449">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've really enjoyed working with you all and I've learned so much since I started working on the guide. However, life is pulling me in different directions now, so I will be stepping back from my involvement with rust and my role in the WG. It's been truly a pleasure and an honor!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736511" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736511">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm planning to announce this more widely with a post on internals, but I wanted y'all to be first to know</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736571" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736571">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>So thanks for everything <span aria-label="heart" class="emoji emoji-2764" role="img" title="heart">:heart:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736625" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736625">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not gonna pretend I didn't know this since we've talked in private, but I want to publicly say that it was great working with you and a pleasure and you will be really missed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736678" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736678">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks for all your help and hard work :) I'll miss you</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736694" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736694">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> <span aria-label="grinning" class="emoji emoji-1f600" role="img" title="grinning">:grinning:</span> It's been a pleasure to co-lead with you</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736855" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736855">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>So I guess for the rest of the meeting, my think was to recap the current status of things, including plans we had ongoing and the work that <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="232545">@Joshua Nelson</span> has been doing wrt x.py</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736870" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736870">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>(which I think is awesome and much needed)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736898" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736898">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>agreed the x.py work is awesome!!!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736930" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736930">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>thank you :D</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736963" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736963">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>It turns out <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="119009">eddyb</span> really likes the diagram <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> came up with after the last meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208736995" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208736995">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I made a PR adding that to the guide, and pinged a few related issues: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-dev-guide/pull/843">https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-dev-guide/pull/843</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737080" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737080">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>I want to finish the discussion with Ralf first since I'm trying to describe the existing mental model, not break it in favor of a new one</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737102" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737102">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>but once I do that and update the diagram I'm feeling very good about the explanation :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737157" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737157">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yep, I think that actually explaining stages in a way that is easier to grasp will be a big improvement</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737208" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737208">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>I also deferred the <code>--run-stage</code> arguments to x.py until the rustc-dev-guide PR lands</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737211" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737211">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>I also liked <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> 's idea of making a ./z.py to play around with different defaults, but I guess that's another discussion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737265" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737265">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>to make sure this is actually a useful mental model</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737310" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737310">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>interesting :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737316" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737316">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25/near/208737211">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I also liked <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> 's idea of making a ./z.py to play around with different defaults, but I guess that's another discussion</p>
</blockquote>
<p>that would be interesting, but most of the different defaults I'm interested in now are changes to config.toml</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737335" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737335">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>which seem like they shouldn't need a separate tool</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737338" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737338">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe an opt-in flag</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737357" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737357">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>the other idea I had was making the default stage configurable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737371" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737371">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/76165">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/76165</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737407" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737407">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>which fortunately is backwards compatible, so I plan to write that this weekend</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737421" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737421">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, that's also a good idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737424" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737424">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>Multiple people in the contributor survey mentioned that bootstrapping stages was something that was confusing, so this is a concrete proposal for a real problem <span aria-label="tada" class="emoji emoji-1f389" role="img" title="tada">:tada:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737568" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737568">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="133169">@matklad</span> also suggested changing a few more defaults around for development isntead of CI</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737570" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737570">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Should.20x.2Epy.20check.20deny.20warnings.3F/near/208570745">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/131828-t-compiler/topic/Should.20x.2Epy.20check.20deny.20warnings.3F/near/208570745</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737630" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737630">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>mostly minor things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737727" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737727">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>although <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> requested that I try and make any more breaking changes all at once <span aria-label="laughing" class="emoji emoji-1f606" role="img" title="laughing">:laughing:</span> instead of stretching them out piecemeal</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737758" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737758">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>well more so I want a doc giving a longer-term plan</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737765" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737765">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>even if we incrementally change things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737787" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737787">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>z.py is because I don't want to force people to re-learn their tooling every week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737835" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737835">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think wrt to the guide, we would just need to make sure that the recommendations stay up to date right? Or do you think that reorganizing how we present bootstrapping, config.toml, etc would be needed too?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737911" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737911">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>FWIW I no longer think changing the <em>behavior</em> around stages is worth the churn</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737971" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737971">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>as long as we have a way to teach it, it's ok if it's somewhat confusing at first</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208737993" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208737993">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>and changing the behavior would break too many people's mental model of how bootstrapping works</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738020" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738020">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do think the aliases are useful though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738080" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738080">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hmm, I guess that makes sense. It's an interesting finding</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738241" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738241">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Like <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> said, there's always going to be two viewpoints no matter how you look at it, so it makes more sense to teach both than to try and enforce one or the other</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738292" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738292">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wish I had a better word than "viewpoint" since this isn't even something subjective</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738329" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738329">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>I liked "worlds" on discord</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738337" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738337">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>(other than preference, but both exist)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738349" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738349">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>"dimensions"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738359" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738359">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738368" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738368">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>heh. that works for the 2D table</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738522" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738522">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25/near/208737758">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>well more so I want a doc giving a longer-term plan</p>
</blockquote>
<p>so my current response is that I don't plan to make any more <em>large</em> changes to x.py</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738564" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738564">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I'll wait to make small changes until we've had the dev guide up a bit and see if people understand it better</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738725" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738725">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Cool, so the other thing we've been discussing for a while but haven't really gotten around to is regornaizing the guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738827" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738827">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>In particular, much of the content of the 2nd part seems like it could move to the forge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738911" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738911">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>Personally, I'm generally happy with the rest of the guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738918" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738918">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738937" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738937">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>agree on all that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738948" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738948">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>But I'm wondering if we can do something more incremental...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738959" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738959">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>to be honest I haven't had any time to make these changes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738963" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738963">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25/near/208738827">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>In particular, much of the content of the 2nd part seems like it could move to the forge</p>
</blockquote>
<p>as in, it's applicable to anyone working on rust, not just the compiler?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738975" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738975">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd agree with that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738979" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738979">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g. make PRs to move/adapt individual chapters</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208738988" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208738988">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>after the meeting we had <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="198054">@mark-i-m</span> where we organized some stuff I didn't do anything else</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739033" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739033">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>we never impacted those changes, am I right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739041" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739041">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yep, neither did I</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739069" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739069">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>Although, I did a bit of rearranging to break the first part into the two we have now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739078" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739078">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>which I think helped a bit</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739170" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739170">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>But it doesn't seem like anyone has the bandwidth to make large-scale changes atm</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739231" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739231">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I could probably find a weekend if you reminded me enough :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739258" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739258">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>:)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739263" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739263">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well, I'm wondering if everyone can just pick a single chapter, make a PR for that chapter, and we can discuss further there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739287" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739287">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>meaning, on a per-chapter basis</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739308" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739308">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>But I'm also fine if someone wants to just make a PR</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739317" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739317">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>for all of them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739352" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739352">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>when you say 'move over', it's mostly just copying the files and doing some light editing, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739368" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739368">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>not rewriting anything</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739374" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739374">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also, I think it might be good to have a chapter in the guide just about the forge, linking to different resources</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739420" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739420">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>(maybe)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739451" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739451">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>right, not rewriting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739494" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739494">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>Although, I think parts might need to be slightly adapted, where we refer to/from other parts of the guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739496" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739496">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>was looking for a link to where you summarized the outcomes of our discussion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739499" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739499">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/Reorganizing.20the.20guide/near/201775078">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/Reorganizing.20the.20guide/near/201775078</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739517" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739517">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>it would be nice to have documentation in one place :/ but I guess forge and the dev guide are already pretty separate</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739566" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739566">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>forge seems like it's mostly for <em>existing</em> contributors</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739579" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739579">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>it has information about specific teams</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739592" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739592">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>and procedures</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739603" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739603">(Sep 01 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>whereas chapter 2 of the guide is for <em>new</em> contributors</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739856" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739856">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>but also putting it in rustc-dev-guide does make it seems like it's only for rustc contributors</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739865" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739865">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>so not ideal</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739975" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739975">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, from the prior discussions, I got the sense that Niko and Santiago have a vision for the forge that makes it more useful to a broader group of people</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208739977" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208739977">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, I don't feel strongly enough to block the change, it would be good to have some more consistency</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740047" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740047">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>and that way the guide could be a bit more focused</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740084" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740084">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>right, I'm all for a more focused guide on learning how the compiler works</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740099" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740099">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>and leave the rest in forge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740184" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740184">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>(stealing attention while we're here: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-dev-guide/pull/841">https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-dev-guide/pull/841</a> is waiting on review)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740192" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740192">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>but rustc-dev-guide could have a little section about contributing or other short sections that mainly point to forge for deeper information</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740224" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740224">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>that makes sense, more hyper links are always good :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740355" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740355">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="232545">Joshua Nelson</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25/near/208740184">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>(stealing attention while we're here: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-dev-guide/pull/841">https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-dev-guide/pull/841</a> is waiting on review)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>seems good to me but I also wondering if we should start more aggressively to ping compiler members on PRs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740374" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740374">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>so more people get involved and are aware of the shape of things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740409" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740409">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>in particular, in this case, maybe cc <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="119031">Esteban Küber</span> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740413" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740413">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm well often I'm not sure who to ping</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740443" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740443">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>in this case <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="123856">Vadim Petrochenkov</span> reviewed the rustc PR (<a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/76143">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/76143</a>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740487" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740487">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I don't think he deals with error codes a ton</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740605" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740605">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="210316">@GuillaumeGomez</span> also did some work on error codes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740638" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740638">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="210316">@GuillaumeGomez</span>  does love documentation <span aria-label="laughing" class="emoji emoji-1f606" role="img" title="laughing">:laughing:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740681" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740681">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>Generally, it might be good to check the git blame and see if there is a clear maintainer</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740862" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740862">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>looks like mostly esteban and guillaume after all haha</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740933" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740933">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>at least recently</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740939" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740939">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah or maybe we can also ping and err, I don't think it's a big deal</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740946" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740946">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I like the idea of pinging compiler members</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208740987" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208740987">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>doing that now for this PR</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208741180" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208741180">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>in particular this would have avoided issues like <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/76141">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/76141</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208741203" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208741203">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>where we had clearly incorrect information <span aria-label="sweat smile" class="emoji emoji-1f605" role="img" title="sweat smile">:sweat_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208741209" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208741209">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I need to leave, and we are overtime with the meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208741241" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208741241">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>but feel free to keep discussing or let's keep some discussions async</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208741261" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208741261">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>just mentioning that I need to leave :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208741277" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208741277">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span> everyone</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208741657" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208741657">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>Cool thanks for the discussion! I also have to leave, unfortunately, but I think we should continue async</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020-08-25/near/208741718" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020-08-25.html#208741718">(Sep 01 2020 at 20:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I didn't have much more to say <span aria-label="laughing" class="emoji emoji-1f606" role="img" title="laughing">:laughing:</span> take care everyone, thanks for your time</p>



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